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parv
Lecturer
Joined: Sun Jul 08, 2007 2:27 pm Posts: 63 Location: nairobi
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 SHOULD WE EMBRACE INHERITANCE OF POWER?
Ladies and gentlemen, i respect you all ngo ichepyoso anan ko iboiyon. My point of contention is should we embrace inheritance of power like what has just hapened in Bomet,Sotik and Ainamoi? are all the brains the same? does it mean that when any M.P kicks then hakuna mtu mwingine from outside his family can contest in any By-Election?
II.. yawa
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| Wed Sep 03, 2008 11:46 am |
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orgoyot
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Joined: Fri Aug 03, 2007 8:14 pm Posts: 35 Location: Tulwob Ngetik/ Tinet
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parv, wacha marelatives wachienjoy bwana. kwani nani alijua vile things would unravel. it was tragedy na i think they deserve it at least thru the 5 years of their kin's mandates 
_________________ "The optimist proclaims that we live in the best of all possible worlds, and the pessimist fears this is true."
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| Tue Sep 16, 2008 12:39 am |
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SuraMbaya
Visiting Assoc Professor
Joined: Sun Sep 23, 2007 2:09 pm Posts: 160 Location: virginia
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hizo mambo za nepotism lazima zitupuliwe mbali. wacha upuzi ya siasa nane 
_________________ if U sacrifice LIBERTY for SECURITY, or PRINCIPLE for POWER, u end up with Neither
Never, 4 the sake of PEACE & QUIET, deny your own EXPERIENCES and/or CONVICTIONS
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| Tue Sep 16, 2008 1:49 pm |
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Tarz
Lecturer
Joined: Mon Feb 18, 2008 1:35 am Posts: 71 Location: Nairobi.
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Ladies and gentlemen it has nothing to do with wether we embrace or not! its all to do with nature & character of the kalenjin people.Biikabkutit are so sypamthetic,caring to some extent,are not driven by jealoust and tamaa like our fellows from the mountain,and they like moving like a flock of sheep.All this contributes to our decision making and how far we can go as a community,unles this changes and we embrace full capitalism we might have some mileage to cover before we catch up with our "brothers" from the slopes
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| Wed Sep 17, 2008 2:28 am |
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xugal
Undergraduate
Joined: Sun Sep 14, 2008 7:46 am Posts: 18
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 i would say no
As much as we are caring, sympathetic,apologetic...... bla bla bla i think we should go for a person who is competent and able to deliver and give others a fair chance as well.
it is our responsibility, young people to show biikchok the way[size=18]
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| Thu Sep 18, 2008 4:28 am |
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boiyot
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Joined: Mon Dec 10, 2007 6:37 pm Posts: 40 Location: NAIROBI
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@TARZ
thou we tend to symbatize this isn't the way to do it.
what surambaya is saying is out of question, to enjoy what on whose part, we wacha
so the political or power inheritance should not be embraced in this era of young genaration as all have the capability to lead and rule depending on his/her power to navigate the journey to victory...this is not the kings shrine regime ama udictator be civilised and let it be known that there is civilisation in our community as a whole lol"
_________________ EVERYTHING THAT IS REALLY GREAT AND INSPIRING IS CREATED BY THE INDIVIDUAL WHO CAN LABOR IN FREEDOM
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| Thu Sep 18, 2008 2:47 pm |
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boiyot
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Joined: Mon Dec 10, 2007 6:37 pm Posts: 40 Location: NAIROBI
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boiyot wrote: @TARZ thou we tend to symbatize this isn't the way to do it. what orgoyot (not s,mbaya) is saying is out of question, to enjoy what on whose part, we wacha so the political or power inheritance should not be embraced in this era of young genaration as all have the capability to lead and rule depending on his/her power to navigate the journey to victory...this is not the kings shrine regime ama udictator be civilised and let it be known that there is civilisation in our community as a whole lol"
_________________ EVERYTHING THAT IS REALLY GREAT AND INSPIRING IS CREATED BY THE INDIVIDUAL WHO CAN LABOR IN FREEDOM
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| Thu Sep 18, 2008 2:49 pm |
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Kazi_Bure
Lecturer
Joined: Tue Feb 12, 2008 10:12 pm Posts: 75 Location: washington District of Columbia
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me thinks relatives are okay to take over when such nyasutiet happens. kalenjins are very caring n luving community
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| Fri Sep 19, 2008 11:03 am |
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Tarz
Lecturer
Joined: Mon Feb 18, 2008 1:35 am Posts: 71 Location: Nairobi.
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@kazibure,
Please enlighten me of why people go for elections after every 5 years coz it seems am lost,i thought people voted because they wantd to drive their visions and misions and thus vote for the people who share and can drive the same sentiments to achievement.So if we go for by-elections and vote for families what we will be doing is sacrificing the visions of 1 million families in the constituency so that 1 family can fulfil theirs in the name of sympathy,i believe the individual and the family are 2 different entities and have different capacities and capabilities.
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| Sat Sep 20, 2008 3:00 am |
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Tarz
Lecturer
Joined: Mon Feb 18, 2008 1:35 am Posts: 71 Location: Nairobi.
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@kazibure,
Please enlighten me of why people go for elections after every 5 years coz it seems am lost,i thought people voted because they wantd to drive their visions and misions and thus vote for the people who share and can drive the same sentiments to achievement.So if we go for by-elections and vote for families what we will be doing is sacrificing the visions of 1 million families in the constituency so that 1 family can fulfil theirs in the name of sympathy,i believe the individual and the family are 2 different entities and have different capacities and capabilities.
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| Sat Sep 20, 2008 3:01 am |
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parv
Lecturer
Joined: Sun Jul 08, 2007 2:27 pm Posts: 63 Location: nairobi
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Kazi_Bure wrote: me thinks relatives are okay to take over when such nyasutiet happens. kalenjins are very caring n luving community
Hey boss does that mean when a lady passes away there is no need for the by elections just give a direct nomination to te favorite brother or sister?
ii yawa!!!
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| Mon Sep 22, 2008 6:12 am |
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xugal
Undergraduate
Joined: Sun Sep 14, 2008 7:46 am Posts: 18
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Kazi_Bure wrote: me thinks relatives are okay to take over when such nyasutiet happens. kalenjins are very caring n luving community
KB you know what? emotions aside, we cant help but feel sorry for the family esp if the deceased was the breadwinner but also we should think of the future n what becomes of the thousand families represented here, r u gonna sacrifice the future of the children growing up for the sake of only one family?? whatever it is they wil sought it out, it don matter if they will be humbled then they will have to struggle with thousand others, thats life u cant change that.
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| Wed Sep 24, 2008 10:04 am |
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xugal
Undergraduate
Joined: Sun Sep 14, 2008 7:46 am Posts: 18
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 a mile further
Though am opposed to inheritance am proud of biichuchok at least they elected women putting in consideration a typical kaleo man, we beat the other tribes.
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| Sun Sep 28, 2008 2:58 am |
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boiyot
Graduate
Joined: Mon Dec 10, 2007 6:37 pm Posts: 40 Location: NAIROBI
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wow kongoi missing: our typical ladies will be proved to the point the tyme they get to the parliament
they won with all mean yani huruma, kura, and all that make them winners
what happened to KANU MOSTLY the man with sharp shortes bwana Salat? he cant make at all;
_________________ EVERYTHING THAT IS REALLY GREAT AND INSPIRING IS CREATED BY THE INDIVIDUAL WHO CAN LABOR IN FREEDOM
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| Sun Sep 28, 2008 7:03 am |
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Tarz
Lecturer
Joined: Mon Feb 18, 2008 1:35 am Posts: 71 Location: Nairobi.
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lets leave insurance firms to do their jobs,after all even if u sympathize or empathize,the premiums will stil be paid and thus what you are doing is selling the welfare of a million and double enriching a few,anyway congrats to the women i was surprised kale's nowadays can vote ladies in its a transformation worth noting.
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| Sun Sep 28, 2008 11:15 am |
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SuraMbaya
Visiting Assoc Professor
Joined: Sun Sep 23, 2007 2:09 pm Posts: 160 Location: virginia
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enough of the nepotism/symphathy crap. i am beginning to like mheshimiwa Isaac Ruto. he makes damn sense. anyone agree? 
_________________ if U sacrifice LIBERTY for SECURITY, or PRINCIPLE for POWER, u end up with Neither
Never, 4 the sake of PEACE & QUIET, deny your own EXPERIENCES and/or CONVICTIONS
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