Why Theology!

[Edwin]

I've realized that many of our people "fear" Theology. I come from a rural area and when my people heard that I was going to do Theology, they felt as if I was going the wrong way. It was not until the time they "saw" someone, who had gone before me, advancing like other people who had other "special" degrees like Doctors, Teachers, Engineers and so on, that they found out that Theology was also Important and even Better than other "fields". Many people would really bear witness with me. Many people who pass well in secondary school and have the calling to do Theology are convinced by our Kalenjin People not to do so because of some preconceived ideas and many people end up doing things that are not their wishes, but the wishes of their parents, teachers and community. These people at the end end up failing in life. God is the only source of our PURPOSE and GOAL in our lives and so we should learn to obey His Will always.
Kalenjins, let us never fear this, it will also bring great blessings to our Land. Ama mnataka "false teachers" to come to us. Our People need leaders from all corners of life including spiritual leaders. If you are one looking forward to join us, please do it without any hesitation. In Kenya, we have colleges that offer Theology Degrees and Diplomas and one is SCOTT THEOLOGICAL COLLEGE, which according to me is the best and it has a Charter from the Government. We have very few Kalenjins in this school. Let us join hands together and pray for our people. Let us encourage those who wish to join this field and let us teach our people about it. Theology is just like Law, Engineering e.t.c But REMEMBER this has more to do with God's Calling. God Bless You All.

[Birgen]

I would like to thank my coleaque Mr.Edwin for his wise encouragement epecially to our people from Kalenjin who for a long time have feard doing Theology.Giving an example of our great international preacher Rev.Jackson Kosgey who through his powerful preachings across the Kalenjin land has been of help towards developing a spirit of unity it is becouse he was able to respond to the puporse of his life.Theology for that case is not about reading the Bible the whole day,though that is our major concentration we have other courses in theology are philosophy,socialogy,psychology,living world views et al.This gives the person taking theology across view of many issues involved in the human life.
I therefore would like to thank Edwin for highliting this key and important topic that our people have in many years overlooked.Come on guys lets consider theology.

[Edwin]

God is great and transcence all cultures. Kalenjin is growing in all aspects of life and this healthy. May the Lord help us grow until we all Kalenjins achieve our purposes in life. It is Godwho gives us these Purpose and it is our responsibility to see to it that we have accomplish through His Majestic Help. God Bless.

[altoo]

Edwin, i try to reconcile what you so eloquently believe and profess to the history of religion not only around the world but Kenya in particular and guess what?, it doesn't stand up the the test brother......the theory doesn't hold water in my humble opinion brother Edwin....to put it simply, how do you explain the fact that the same missionaries who came to Africa in the late 19th century ended up taking our best land, brutally colonizing us and asking us to accept our fate coz balck folks were inferior...do you believe that theory?.......to get personal, I have lived in the states for quite a bit and i run into white christian folks everyday who actually believe we as a people are less of human beings than they are...wtf?..with all due respect to religion Edwin, how do you reconcile such contradictions?

[bahrmasa]

I thought theology is about a study of religion and belief systems in general, but it appears both Mr. Edwin and Birgen are learning just about the Christianity religion, is that correct? Your observation about biik choch che iywei theology ko amun che chang ko maaguiyo kole ne no. Eng alak kolenei why just to became a church leader and propel a religion which just can?t fit in by itself. How does one expect the masses to continue in the core beliefs when there are all sorts of negative reports about the clergy of this great religion let alone laity? Does this Canterbury or Vatican jazz bother you?
Many may be in it as a career rather than a calling. I have no idea what you are in for but I suspect it would be for the former. Well, that?s besides my point for which I will humbly say sorry for prodding that far. The more important issue, if you ask me, is to be able to inject new good ideas into what is ours from what you gather from those others (Christianity, Islam, Judaism, Hinduism, Buddhism etc).
It is in fact not too late for our people to seek the truthful path to Kiptaiyat. The leading religions are to me, merely competing to wield power, and it?s all about cultural domination. It is time we wake those of us who are still slumbering

[altoo]

bahrmasa, you are right on the money. I agree that religion , especially organized religion has been used as a tool to control the masses, wield enormous power over them and basically limit the freedom of expression

[Edwin]

The truth still lies with God. The world is full of many characters with many worldviews. OUR MINDS AND HEARTS ARE BLINDED WITH SIN AND WITH HUMAN KNOWLEDGE, WE CANNOT REALLY GET TO KNOW THE TRUTH. WE NEED TO REPENT OR ELSE WE PERISH IN THE WORLD OF SIN! I do admit that there are different religions in the world with different teachings, but what I know myself is that the right religion is that which holds to the teachings of the scripture, the Bible. Anything beyond the Word of God I do not accept. Let us get rid of those preconceived ideas and believes that we have brothers and sisters. I admit that some of the first missionaries came to Kenya with wrong motives and that why many people do not want to hear much about religion. Come on, this should not be an excuse. Many have accepted to turn and run to God/Christ for an answer, WHY NOT YOU AND ME. I do not see any wrong, and infact, I am more better than the time I was still in the "dark". It God alone who gives us our PURPOSE in our lives. Rember: WHETHER WE LIKE IT OR NOT, WE SHOULD REPENT OR ELSE WE WILL PERISH WITH ALL THE SO CALLED "GOOD THINGS" THAT WE HAVE. GET SAVED!!!!!!!!

[altoo]

brother Edwin, it's not that people fear religion.....rather, it's that folks have figured out that religion by itself does not solve their problems, right what's wrong, restore what's lost and/or answer the great unknowns that we live in the midst of every damn day.........while i do personally agree that religion serves as a bumber or a comfort thing during times of distress, hurt sadness or sorrow, it still doesn't tangentably let us in on what happens when we exit this planet coz no one who has ever done it has ever come back and tell us what's out there for sure......like i said, & with all due respect, i think religion was started by white folks as a propaganda tool wholly designed to conquer, enslave & control the dispossed masses around the world forever......i rest my case.
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a CITIZEN without POLITICAL KNOWLEDGE is a VIRTUAL CRIMINAL....when the POWER of LOVE overcomes the LOVE of POWER, the WORLD will know PEACE....I would rather be HATED for WHO I am than LOVED for WHAT I am not....LIVE FREE or DIE HARD!!!

[Edwin]

I know it is hard to convince someone who strongly believes in Science, which is one of God's creation, but I want to wish you well as you struggle with life. Mr, if you keep on looking for scientific proofs so that you can belief then let me assure you that you will be in vain. What I know and strongly believe is that God exists, Christianity is real becuase of Christ our Lord and whether you like or not, God will change you If He wishes!!! Do not be shocked to hear this. There are people who strongly believed in Science but you might be shocked to hear that they are Strong Christians. I cannot save anyone, God alone Saves us all. Christ Loves You. God's Foolishness is GREATER than the Human Knowledge. Human Knowledge will never Save you, Try it and See!! God Bless You Mr.

[altoo]

bwana Edwin....you misunderstood me my brother...I never said I believed in Science only neither did I ever say I do not believe in GOD, the almighty, the omnipotent , the immortal...... nor any other supreme being out there not unlike ASIS who our ancestors believed & worshipped since time immemorial....On the contrary, I just said that it is wrong for the hardcore christian fundamentalist out to run their mouths off giving so much credibility to religion/theology without any tangeable evidence and more importantly, at the expense of science......personally though, I do believe that the theories of GOD and SCiENCE can exict concurrently and are mutually inclusive...I guess I just got tired of folks professing so much on something that one cannot physically and in the human form proof it beyond any reasonable doubt..not to mention that history shows us that more people have gotten killed in the name of religion that any other reason..that's all
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a CITIZEN without POLITICAL KNOWLEDGE is a VIRTUAL CRIMINAL....when the POWER of LOVE overcomes the LOVE of POWER, the WORLD will know PEACE....I would rather be HATED for WHO I am than LOVED for WHAT I am not....LIVE FREE or DIE HARD!!!

[Edwin]

What is it that is tangeable anyway? and what would you wish to have or experience or evidence apart from faith and believe in God? Which is your stand then?
"As the man thinketh, so he is" Bible Proverb.
God Bless.

[Nyiganet]

bikyok, ngalekab science ak ngalekab bible ko tuguk che kogoron tuwn amun woljin tebutik kimulmet en ngwony tugul. On kiyan echek tugul kele mokingen kele wo ainon kosir ingo. Ometen chemargatit ne u yon kibelige ak oboisien scientific research findings ak kanetutigab kanisa en boisionikwok amun kororon tuwan

[keno]

Mr Edwin can you please help us and pray for our ODM? some sinners like us God might not answer our prayers.

[altoo]

i hate to bust your bubble Keno but i really don't believe that prayer is the answer coz if it was, bad things wouldn't happen to good people every damn day. On the other hannd, I do however, believe that if all the ODM guys stick together the way flies stick to s**t, Kibaki is gonna get his ass handed to him at the election in December & everything will be just fine for our country
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a CITIZEN without POLITICAL KNOWLEDGE is a VIRTUAL CRIMINAL....when the POWER of LOVE overcomes the LOVE of POWER, the WORLD will know PEACE....I would rather be HATED for WHO I am than LOVED for WHAT I am not....LIVE FREE or DIE HARD!!!

[siele]

I think Mr Edwin is a little bit offended by you guys .Why don't you cut our brother some slack he is only tyring to be a humble messenger of God.

[altoo]

you really think so Ms. Siele?..........well, I for one didn't mean to offend anyone, mush less a brother in Christ like Edwin...speaking of Edwin, where is he?, I haven' seen any of his posts lately......hope he is fine out there....Anyway, I happen to think that in this day and age we ought to be able to question, analyze & discuss any issue, including religious ones that we were all taught to "just believe by FAITH" without any reservations whatsoever for the benefit of all biikabkutit now and the generations to come
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a CITIZEN without POLITICAL KNOWLEDGE is a VIRTUAL CRIMINAL....when the POWER of LOVE overcomes the LOVE of POWER, the WORLD will know PEACE....I would rather be HATED for WHO I am than LOVED for WHAT I am not....LIVE FREE or DIE HARD!!!

[Memo]

[altoo]

Memo, u damn right about that.....bwana Edwin.....i was gona pretend i didn't read whta you wrote but for now, i am gonna say it's okay to debate, scrutinize, discuss, analyze, ideacate, and do whatever else we need to do to find out the whole truth and get to the bottom of the matter
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a CITIZEN without POLITICAL KNOWLEDGE is a VIRTUAL CRIMINAL....when the POWER of LOVE overcomes the LOVE of POWER, the WORLD will know PEACE....I would rather be HATED for WHO I am than LOVED for WHAT I am not....LIVE FREE or DIE HARD!!!

[Rokiha]

Questioning and analysing God's deeds here slightly tend to bother me.... there are situations where certain person(s) did question Gods capability and the outcome was disastrous.

Will give one or two known cases in this and the last century. In Brazil there is a guy called Tancredo Neves who was vying for that country's precidency... During the campaigns, he lamented that if he got 500,000 votes from his party, not even God would remove him from precidency.
He got the votes and a day before being made the president he died.

NO.2 you all know about the Titanic. after the construction of the titanic, a reporter asked the titanic man how safe it was . He said " not even God can sink it." the result:... I think you all know what happened to titanic.

So Gods power is immense, infinite and supreme.

[Memo]