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altoo Chancellor


Joined: 26 Dec 2006 Posts: 994 Location: MaryLand Country: usa
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Posted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 12:21 am Post subject: the Lemindet's political suicide!!! |
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Folks, rumor has it that RAO & EMK got together today & agreed to form a govt by, for & of RAO & EMK...in other words they decided to get together & eat at Raiya's expense for the next 5 years...dunno about you but I think that for RAO to sell out & agree to join "EMK's serikali" in any way shape or form is simply analogous to the Lemindet getting greedy just as the PNU folks & throwing Kenyans & democracy under the bus which may well be fatal to the Lemindet's presidential ambitions...fact is, RAO should have joined Kalonzo & the NCCK in calling for fresh presidential uchaguzi & I don't care if they agree on only 20 ministries, equal appointment of PS's, DC's, DO's & ambassodors coz as long as EMK will be calling the shots I can bet my kabarangwe ass that the lemindet will be pacified by the mafia and wanainchi may as well forget about all the promises ODM made such as katiba mpya & majimbo govt...I hope I am wrong on this thought but I sure Agwambo just shot himself in the foot & rendered the dreams of Kenyans just that...wtf?  _________________ a CITIZEN without POLITICAL KNOWLEDGE is a VIRTUAL CRIMINAL....when the POWER of LOVE overcomes the LOVE of POWER, the WORLD will know PEACE....I would rather be HATED for WHO I am than LOVED for WHAT I am not....LIVE FREE or DIE HARD!!!
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altoo Chancellor


Joined: 26 Dec 2006 Posts: 994 Location: MaryLand Country: usa
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Posted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 1:30 pm Post subject: |
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...it's a done deal folks....the official betrayal of Kenyans is done...I mean for the Lemindet to agree to a 401 member cabinet & at least 80 ass ministers & give up all the critical ministries save for ROADS & LOCAL GOVT is abominable in my view....anyone notice the lemindet put his own bro as assmin for Finance?, uumh, wonder why?, could it be he wants Kimunya to pass off leftovers to him?....well, I really thought Raila cared for Raiya but I guess he chose to eat with the greedy PNU folks instead of working for ordinary mwanainchi....Kenyan taxpayers must now did deeper into their poor pockets to finance lavish lifestyles of politicians thanks... to the folly of splitting up & duplicating wizaras not to make govt more efficient BUT to massage these moron politicians' egos...only in Kenya does such stupidity pass as good judgement.. ...  _________________ a CITIZEN without POLITICAL KNOWLEDGE is a VIRTUAL CRIMINAL....when the POWER of LOVE overcomes the LOVE of POWER, the WORLD will know PEACE....I would rather be HATED for WHO I am than LOVED for WHAT I am not....LIVE FREE or DIE HARD!!!
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DAVIDEK Undergraduate


Joined: 30 Jan 2008 Posts: 22 Location: LONDON Country: uk
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Posted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 4:25 pm Post subject: |
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| altoo wrote: | ...it's a done deal folks....the official betrayal of Kenyans is done...I mean for the Lemindet to agree to a 401 member cabinet & at least 80 ass ministers & give up all the critical ministries save for ROADS & LOCAL GOVT is abominable in my view....anyone notice the lemindet put his own bro as assmin for Finance?, uumh, wonder why?, could it be he wants Kimunya to pass off leftovers to him?....well, I really thought Raila cared for Raiya but I guess he chose to eat with the greedy PNU folks instead of working for ordinary mwanainchi....Kenyan taxpayers must now did deeper into their poor pockets to finance lavish lifestyles of politicians thanks... to the folly of splitting up & duplicating wizaras not to make govt more efficient BUT to massage these moron politicians' egos...only in Kenya does such stupidity pass as good judgement.. ...  |
biikabkutit lets give them chance we kales have done our part we supported ODM dam now it up to them to deliver, lets be patient ,but tu si lale cos enemy is always waiting to strike back, have eyes open and ear wide.
Rome was not built in one day
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Kipngetich Senior Lecturer


Joined: 17 Feb 2007 Posts: 106 Location: Dallas Fort Worth Texas Country: usa
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Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 4:28 pm Post subject: |
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The PNU folks won this fight. How come Raila accepted a 40-member cabinet and to put insult to injury agree to accept the 17-member cabinet formed earlier on.?
It is complete lack of leadership and principles on his part.
Anyhow im watchin closely the performance of this coalition.
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cheptabkoret Chancellor


Joined: 17 May 2007 Posts: 816 Location: Nairobi Country: kenya
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Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 2:33 am Post subject: |
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i beg to differ...... on some issues here..........., we might have been short changed but not to the extend potrayed here...we have agriculture, we have industrilization, we ave roads , we have medical services, we have water, we have immigration etc..... juz for the sake of peace and for the sake of us living and working here in kenya, for the sake of sanity, for the sake of waking up in the morning and having a sense of security......we have come along way in the three months....there are other avenues for agitating...as for now please let kenya be. And for info... kalonzo was not ready for a re-run, he was juz replying to ODM threats. _________________ Ability may get you to the top, but it takes character to keep you there
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Tarz Lecturer


Joined: 18 Feb 2008 Posts: 71 Location: Nairobi. Country: kenya
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Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 4:30 am Post subject: |
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Some of the comments put across here just shows how greedy we are as kenyans,Why should we demonise Raila now yet he is been our hero all along? for him to have accepted this to happen he must have stretched himself that far.The most important thing is for this guys in ODM to outperform the PNU guys in cabinet.Personally i have a complain in just 2 ministries 1.CHARITY NGILU not coming back in Health 2.CHIRAU ALI MWAKWERE being in cabinet & going back to transport, why not reward performers like michuki n take him back to transport?
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altoo Chancellor


Joined: 26 Dec 2006 Posts: 994 Location: MaryLand Country: usa
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Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 7:47 pm Post subject: |
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Cheptabkoret & brother Tarz, it's not that I don't feel your concerns on this so called "deal" but as a sceptic on anything politicians get together to 'agree on', I am looking at the big picture projected into the future & based on the track record of Kibaki & the Lemindet...I simply can't see any way that the "grand coalition" is gonna benefit the ordinary people like my folks in Kericho coz recent narc history teaches me that Kibaki is gonna make sure that Raila doesn't accomplish anything whatsoever...I hate to be a pessimist but my gut feeling tells me that this "grand coaltion" is kinda like a forced marriage done to satisfy outside parties as opposed to the principals at hand...I sure hope I am proven wrong but I don't see any development in the next 5 years other than PNU & ODM trying to outdo each other in the eyes of the public coz the Lemindet was dumb enough not to make sure the agreement guaranteed a fresh election if any party withdrew from the coalition...it's gonna be a long 'unhappy marriage" folks & kenyan taxpayers would have to reach deep in thier pockets to pay these moron politicians for doing nothing  _________________ a CITIZEN without POLITICAL KNOWLEDGE is a VIRTUAL CRIMINAL....when the POWER of LOVE overcomes the LOVE of POWER, the WORLD will know PEACE....I would rather be HATED for WHO I am than LOVED for WHAT I am not....LIVE FREE or DIE HARD!!!
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Kimotwek Lecturer


Joined: 29 Aug 2007 Posts: 99 Location: Charlotte Country: usa
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Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 1:34 am Post subject: |
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Altoo...it is easier to fight from within than from outside. Of course we all know that the thing is forced, but it gives more leverage to everybody as the fight continues. Kibaki can't just be asked to go for a rerun like that...the man doesn't care what wananchi go through - so mass action is out of the action if that is what u would suggest. remember that is easier to fu ck a bi tch when u sleep in the same bed with her than when u have to come knockin at midnght when everybody is asleep.
My only problem is that they have Uhuru as a dpm. Kibaki being a kikuyu I expected some other places to be given the senior position. Places like coast need to be strenghtened politically - which will have subsequent advantages on the economy of the place and etc. A place like coast does not have a university despite all the revenue it generates. _________________ Africa begins at the end of the road...PLO
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Tarz Lecturer


Joined: 18 Feb 2008 Posts: 71 Location: Nairobi. Country: kenya
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Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 1:57 am Post subject: |
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@Altoo.
I agree totally with u in that nothin might come of this forced marriage,but since u have the bithch in ua house the best way forward is to take a strategic position where you can get rid of her without causing more harm to the unconcerned parties.So lets face the enemy from withi rather than go out and arm ourselves.Tha best way forward in this 5 years is for ODM to ensure that institutions of power n justice are restructured n the constitution is changed so that whoever DOG comes thereafter is not an issue of concern worth fighting for.
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altoo Chancellor


Joined: 26 Dec 2006 Posts: 994 Location: MaryLand Country: usa
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Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 10:48 pm Post subject: |
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kimotwek & tarz....I do concur with both of your generous opinions gentlemen but I still think Kenya is an exception where politicians just get together in a so called coalition just to SCREW & rip off raiya & in 5 years shamelessly show up again to solicit votes AS IF NOTHING EVER HAPPENED...that's why I am so disappointed that the Lemindet chose that route as opposed to declining all the state largese & calling for fresh elections...trust me guys, HELL will freeze over b4 Kimunya budgets any funds to the ODM ministries...ODM lost when they gave up TREASURY...I hope I am wrong BUT the kyuk mafia won't do anything to strengthen the Lemindet..they didn't want him to begin with & were 'forced' to by the IC, they now have Kenyatta as thier front man & the Lemindet himself thought these guys could work with him for a greater Kenya...yeah right..  _________________ a CITIZEN without POLITICAL KNOWLEDGE is a VIRTUAL CRIMINAL....when the POWER of LOVE overcomes the LOVE of POWER, the WORLD will know PEACE....I would rather be HATED for WHO I am than LOVED for WHAT I am not....LIVE FREE or DIE HARD!!!
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cheptabkoret Chancellor


Joined: 17 May 2007 Posts: 816 Location: Nairobi Country: kenya
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Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 2:57 am Post subject: |
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they always say the worst ailment that kills you is that one which wreck havoc from within.......hope ODM will create the worst cancerous attack on PNU govn... the only hope for them will be to die peacefully....lets wait n c _________________ Ability may get you to the top, but it takes character to keep you there
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altoo Chancellor


Joined: 26 Dec 2006 Posts: 994 Location: MaryLand Country: usa
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Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 3:50 pm Post subject: |
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| cheptabkoret wrote: | | they always say the worst ailment that kills you is that one which wreck havoc from within.......hope ODM will create the worst cancerous attack on PNU govn... the only hope for them will be to die peacefully....lets wait n c |
U probably damn right about that Cheptabkoret but I am really afraid that in this case, Kibaki & his PNU bastards will pacify the Lemindet so much that the latter would rather wait out the 5 years while eating in "peace" with the former at wanainchi's expense to boot...my condolences to you Chep, as a Kenyan taxpayer & to all our bros & sisters down there  _________________ a CITIZEN without POLITICAL KNOWLEDGE is a VIRTUAL CRIMINAL....when the POWER of LOVE overcomes the LOVE of POWER, the WORLD will know PEACE....I would rather be HATED for WHO I am than LOVED for WHAT I am not....LIVE FREE or DIE HARD!!!
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Kazi_Bure Lecturer


Joined: 12 Feb 2008 Posts: 75 Location: washington District of Columbia Country: usa
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Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 10:00 pm Post subject: |
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Lemindet is finished. he's now korgetab kibaki. look at the way he's supporting IDP re-settlement without solving the underlying land problems i just hope Isaac Ruto, Julius Kones, Ababu Namwamba n the other MP's form the opposition to check on Lemindet na marafiki wake wakikuyu. f!ck Lemindet for selling us out
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Kipngetich Senior Lecturer


Joined: 17 Feb 2007 Posts: 106 Location: Dallas Fort Worth Texas Country: usa
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Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 12:49 pm Post subject: |
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Lets all be united and support the PNU & ODM marriage. Its bound to succeed through its term then we can all look forward to a brighter future when the new consitution is instituted.
Petty bickering like the kipsigis mps crying for ministerial jobs will not solve anything especially the concerns of the normal mwananchi.
Its time to get to work, and this talk of setting up an opposition to check the government is malicious in itself, if not power hungry.
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cheptabkoret Chancellor


Joined: 17 May 2007 Posts: 816 Location: Nairobi Country: kenya
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Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 2:21 am Post subject: |
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chances of the marriage surviving are way below the average period of a normal marriage before a divorce....appr. 3years. we only say lets see what they can do.....but somehow am sure no one really is so much interested in supporting a side that is viewed by all and sundry as the enemy of democracy. The only thing cutting is the peace we are experiencing....anything thing else is subject to individual feelings. Personally everytime i see kibaki presiding over presidential functions, i feel bile and nauseated. _________________ Ability may get you to the top, but it takes character to keep you there
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Kipngetich Senior Lecturer


Joined: 17 Feb 2007 Posts: 106 Location: Dallas Fort Worth Texas Country: usa
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Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 10:47 am Post subject: |
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| cheptabkoret wrote: | | chances of the marriage surviving are way below the average period of a normal marriage before a divorce....appr. 3years. we only say lets see what they can do.....but somehow am sure no one really is so much interested in supporting a side that is viewed by all and sundry as the enemy of democracy. The only thing cutting is the peace we are experiencing....anything thing else is subject to individual feelings. Personally everytime i see kibaki presiding over presidential functions, i feel bile and nauseated. | .
Cheptabkoret, I agree fully that the marriage is bound to collapse, but it will be later and not sooner. This is like a typical celebrity marriage where its lifetime is about 3 to 5 years. Therefore do not expect much from the marriage, but expect a new constitution to be the biggest achievement to come out of this marriage. I'm praying really hard that the baby is born "read ---Constitution" within the first year of marriage as affirmed by the ODM leader recently. If this is achieved, anything else which comes out of this marriage will be a BONUS.
Seeing Kibaki presiding over events almost makes me puke as well, but atleast I haven't seen Lucy roaming around justifying what the hell they did to the 1500 or so kenyans who lost their lives.
The resettlement process is a joke. How in the hell do they just expect to transport this people from the camps with military vehicles to their former farms and expect things to go just smoothly. Fundamental land issues needs to be handled as a matter of urgency. In addition releasing of people arrested by kibaki mafia during the disturbances will be a start in the process of reconcialition and moving forward.
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Kazi_Bure Lecturer


Joined: 12 Feb 2008 Posts: 75 Location: washington District of Columbia Country: usa
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Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 2:24 am Post subject: |
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at what?, nyinyi watu mnafuruta sigara aina gani?, hii mambo ya re-settlement ni upuzi n it's sad to see Kibaki using Lemindet to carry out re-settlement issues even though lemindet knows very well there will be no piece until the land issues problems are adressed at the grassroots level kalenjin MPs must resist this re-settlement upuzi.
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