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Rokiha
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 Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 12:52 pm Post subject: The Devil getting saved |
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What can really happen??? 
In the holy book we are told that even satan was one of the angels (cabinet ya mungu) its only that at some point he rebel... akaenda opposition  but again at some stage he was planning with God (one 2 one) on how to punish Job. !!!
So what is the scenario here  Bwana Edwin uko wapi???.......
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altoo
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| Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 2:17 pm Post subject: |
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damn right, bwana Edwin uko wapi?, mbona umepotea?......i do have lots of querries myself not dissimilar to rokiha's though I must admit I concluded sometime back that there are so many contradictions in the scriptures not to mention that most of the stories passed as facts pretty much defies common sense.....case in point, the story of Jonah getting swallowed alive by a huge whale only to be thrown up later to go complete God's order..  .
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Nyiganet
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| Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 7:47 pm Post subject: |
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Osaa asis ne kisoe boisiekyok kongeten kin kebwan en misri amun agot boiyon nyon Koitalel arap Samoei ko kimwa kounon. Ometen ngalekab kiplelachek. Stay out of whiteville and all its illegitimate and immoral cultures/traditions
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Memo
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| Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 12:39 pm Post subject: |
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| miano Edwin komwawech ngalechu!
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Chemosi
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| Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 2:11 pm Post subject: |
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| Memo wrote: | | miano Edwin komwawech ngalechu! |
Memo! please do not interrupt brother Edwin he is busy praying for our country Kenya during these uhmm.... difficult campaign season.
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Nyiganet
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| Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 8:33 pm Post subject: |
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| Memo wrote: | | miano Edwin komwawech ngalechu! |
Olenjin Edwin kotar saet ak kongololwech
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Edwin
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| Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 11:58 am Post subject: Thanks |
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Hey Guys! Why ask the whereabouts of Edwin? I am not the answer. The answers are there in the Bible and if not there, God knows (Deutronomy 29:29). I am sorry I have been busy lately. I may not be able to give the exact answers but I hope God will help me.
I do not think if there is an opportunity for Satan to be saved. Satan is an enemy of God and he tries always to corrupts the things that God has put in order. the issue of satan talking with God about Job is a tough question that I am looking forward to ask God "while taking chai together in heaven". I have done little theology and i can tell you who God that I am serving is. But a question to those who say that we should worship Asis, pliz tell me who this Asis is and qualify your statement if truly he is a living "god"? I am sorry for this short letter. I will say much later. God Bless
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Chemosi
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| Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 1:47 pm Post subject: |
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Thats right! what if we all pray for the devil to be saved or lets say we all ask God to have macy on the devil and save him I don't know if the devil is a she or he sorry, I think its a she.
If the davil is forgiven by God and she decides to go back to heaven and recognise God as one God and that Jesus is his only son who died on the cross so that we can all be saved don't you think all the problems caused by the devil on earth will be wiped out?
Shetani a shindwe ama shetani a okolewe?
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Edwin
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| Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2007 11:12 am Post subject: |
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| Satan is not a she nor a he becuase the Bible doesn't Say. God Knows the answer for your prayers!!!!!
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Memo
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Is satan omnipresent? If so, then my question is mute. If not, then would it be safe to say that one soul on earth can "run interference" for other souls? If satan is "picking on me" is he then leaving someone else alone? ??
welcome back Edwin
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Rokiha
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| Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 12:32 pm Post subject: |
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Edu. I thought God was flexible and remorseful and not rigid the way you potray. If satan can genuinely say he/she had repented you mean God cannot accept him back????
I also tend to think that satan is a she. 
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Memo
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| Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 2:57 am Post subject: |
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| He has committed the unpardonable sin. He will NOT change his ways. His desire for GOD's throne is great.Plus,who would run hell and black medal??
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Edwin
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| Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 12:25 pm Post subject: |
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| I leave the arquement for God. WHat i know with my little knowledge is that Christ will come back his second coming and the devil, who is the father of lies and his/its/her agents will be defeated. WHy do you refer to satan as a she? where is your basis for this? SAtan being an angel of darkness is not omnipresent. But instead it has its own agents, spirits, demons and angels.
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Chemosi
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| Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 3:17 pm Post subject: |
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| Edwin wrote: | | WHy do you refer to satan as a she? where is your basis for this? SAtan being an angel of darkness is not omnipresent. But instead it has its own agents, spirits, demons and angels. |
I thought satan was one of the angels in heaven who was thrown out for disrespecting God. I've always known angels to be these beautiful women in white silk gowns floating around in heaven or something?
Please Pastor Edwin do not tell me satan is no man nor woman please!. As you said and i quote you on this one "SAtan being an angel of darkness is not omnipresent". So if this devil is not a woman then definitely he should be a man correct?
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cheptabkoret
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| Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 3:09 am Post subject: |
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most of the actions and characteristics that have been used to describe the devil, usually almost point to it being male, hehehe.. birds of the same feather. And most of the angels being mention in the bible are male.. e.g Gabriel, Michael
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