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cheptabkoret
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 7:00 am    Post subject: HIV and Stds Reply with quote
Juz at the beginning of these years national examination, some invigilators were found at some lodgings with form four candidates, in a clash torn district...., what was very astonishing was the fact that the guardians of morals(people of high esteem) like the teachers are breaking every rule by sleeping with young school girls, the end results usually being pregnancy at the simpler worst and HIV/STD's at the extreme worst.... at these promiscuity rate are these dangers going to be curbed in the near foreseeable future????????????????????
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 5:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Its quite a sad thing. I think the moral fabric in our society is continuing to breakdown. As Jamnazi so aptly states..."dunia imepasuka mahali". As for whether HIV/AIDS will ever be curbed...your guess is as good as mine. But i strongly believe a vaccine or a cure will be due in kitu 15 years or so if not earlier. The kind of scientific advancement made in research is very astounding.
On the other hand do we really want a cure?How is it likely to be when we do get a cure....more promiscuity ama?...After all, who wudnt mind getting some on the side and then popping a pill afterwards and all is well?
Just food for thought.....
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 6:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
actually, scientific rumors have it that HIV/AIDS cure vaccines have already been developed and are sitting pretty somewhere on western research labs........problem is, some white folks are holding them back for now waiting for the disease to wipe off a few more million humans, the vast majority of whom are colored folks I might add.........thereby reducing the vast competition for the world's dwindling meagre resources Twisted Evil ....... Smile .like i said, that's what i hear, don't blame me if i am wrong though i got to say on a personal level, I strongly tend to believe them rumors coz I highly doubt what white folks say Wink
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 7:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
You are right, white folk should never be trusted...at least not too much. History shows that they have used diseases in the past to conquer populations.Take for instance the bubonic plague which they brought with them to North America in the 13th Century and which almost wiped out the entire native american population.

Then there was sypillis which they used on the Maasai during the colonial era .... the Maasai warriors succumbed to the disease and the white man ended up with their land!

I wouldnt be surprised if HIV was their invention and that they indeed have a cure by now, why else would the US Military be involved in AIDS research...think of it Walter Reed is a Military Operation ran by Generals...the same Generals who control the nukes....!!

Controversial??Think again.....
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 8:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
[quote="kensoy"]You are right, white folk should never be trusted...at least not too much. History shows that they have used diseases in the past to conquer populations.Take for instance the bubonic plague which they brought with them to North America in the 13th Century and which almost wiped out the entire native american population.

Then there was sypillis which they used on the Maasai during the colonial era .... the Maasai warriors succumbed to the disease and the white man ended up with their land!

I wouldnt be surprised if HIV was their invention and that they indeed have a cure by now, why else would the US Military be involved in AIDS research...think of it Walter Reed is a Military Operation ran by Generals...the same Generals who control the nukes....!!

Couldn't agree more with you kensoy Very Happy ......such cases where white folks have used brown & black folks as guinea pigs are rampant and not as few & far between as some folks seem to think Twisted Evil ......the tuskegee experiment where the US military rounded up black soldiers , injected them with sphyillis and then watched them suffer tremendous pain & eventually die slow painful deaths come to mind, not to mention widespread "innoculations" they did on the native americans whereas in reality they were injecting them with T.B virus in a bid to wipe them off the face of the planet coming a close second.......damn it Twisted Evil , while we are at it, don't even get me started on what the european colonialists did to african natives for over 300 years of occupation not to mention what they have done in eliminating Iraq & its people as we knew it while "testing" their new weapons of mass destruction as if war is some kinda game Evil or Very Mad .....needless to say, Mchungaji Munishi is right on the money says when he says, "hawajali kama watu wanakufua, bora sio watu wao", so yes, going by their history it doesn't surprise me one bit that they might have well created the HIV virus to try & use it to eliminate all the fair skinned folks...damn it Twisted Evil
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 8:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
What the f**k!that Tuskeege experiment was down right inhuman....crap!how can people do that....crap man!crazy stuff, then now they criticise us on human rights!f**k em all!
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 9:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
kensoy wrote:
What the f**k!that Tuskeege experiment was down right inhuman....crap!how can people do that....crap man!crazy stuff, then now they criticise us on human rights!f**k em all!


yeah, couldn't state that any stronger kensoy.....f**k them all....nothing surprises me with what white folks are upto anymore....that's why we should all take what they tell us with a grain of salt......as in sleep with one eye open so to speak coz these bastards are mean evil people Evil or Very Mad
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 7:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
kensoy wrote:
Its quite a sad thing. I think the moral fabric in our society is continuing to breakdown. As Jamnazi so aptly states..."dunia imepasuka mahali". As for whether HIV/AIDS will ever be curbed...your guess is as good as mine. But i strongly believe a vaccine or a cure will be due in kitu 15 years or so if not earlier. The kind of scientific advancement made in research is very astounding.
On the other hand do we really want a cure?How is it likely to be when we do get a cure....more promiscuity ama?...After all, who wudnt mind getting some on the side and then popping a pill afterwards and all is well?
Just food for thought.....


Hey kensoy,am strongly for the cure!Think of the kids that have to grow up without parents,of the faithful woman in the village whose husband works in Nairobi and comes only mwisho wa mwezi,and infects her with HIV,of the psychological torture the family of the patients undergo,not to mention the physical and psychological torture that the patients themselves undergo!Words can't explain how hard I pray everyday that someone comes out with the cure!It doesn't matter to me if the moral standards go down,it is enough if every little child gets the love and warmth that they deserve from both parents.So if anyone is hiding out there with the cure,pliz....
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 8:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Cheptilda,
You put forward a strong case, and i agree with you that the AIDS pandemic has affected the powerless (read children) the most...their suffering is simply unacceptable.

Lemme pose a question to you then, how soon do you expect these poor children you have talked about to benefit from the cure if indeed it comes?

I have a feeling the drug company which comes up with the cure will patent it for 99 years...so no generics, after all they have to recoup their cash. The drugs will simply be too expensive for Africa which has the highest no. of AIDS patient.

Look what happened to ARVs, a very large number of pple die daily yet ARVs are there but are simply too expensive. How fair is that?
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 23, 2007 8:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Kensoy,
It is very unfair!About the 99 years part,am just praying that this won't be the case.Am even becoming a witch now n wishing that the epidemic sahows its face here in so-called western world so that they come out with the damn cure!And if they don't have it yet,I bet they will scratch their heads and come out with a cure in no time....if it is for the good of their people's health of course!Mann!These racists!!But don't we have blacks in the research labs?
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 23, 2007 10:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
what really suprises me most is the fact that we have the most promiscuous people in the western countries yet africa leads in HIV rates, cases of homosexuality and bizzare sexual acts happen there in the west and those people rarely die of Aids, other than some few individuals, unless there is some things they know that we don't. By the way it is so saddening sometimes to see africans exposing themselves to the dangers they are so well aware of.......
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 23, 2007 5:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
cheptabkoret wrote:
what really suprises me most is the fact that we have the most promiscuous people in the western countries yet africa leads in HIV rates, cases of homosexuality and bizzare sexual acts happen there in the west and those people rarely die of Aids, other than some few individuals, unless there is some things they know that we don't. By the way it is so saddening sometimes to see africans exposing themselves to the dangers they are so well aware of.......


yeah, Chep, your concerns are quite legit.......& i agree it's quite sad that so many africans expose themselves to dangers they know are harmful at best & fatal at worst to their lives....talk about shooting themselves in the foot Rolling Eyes .......& what a bunch of dumba*sses Mad ......on the other hand though, the HIV/Aids virus didn't just fall down from the sky.....you can bet it was created somewhere, held back for a while just to be released to wreck & ravage the unwanted and/or undesired population at the right time when resources look to dwindling fast....I think about it this way, if the first cases of it were noticed in the early 80's here as they tell us, & if humans REALLY didn't have anything to do with its creation, how can you explain the TIMING?...in other words, why early 80s, why not 1900's, the 30's, or the 60's for that matter?, like the old saying goes, I may not describe bulls*hit but I know bulls*hit when i see it Wink
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 4:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Contrary to some idiot's beliefs, it was not given to the world by the homosexual community. It is believed to have originated in Africa (yikes!) from a mutated form of a virus in a diseased monkey. I actually know how it came about. It is widely accepted that HIV causes AIDS (acquired immune deficiency syndrome) but because we cannot do experiments to prove this (due to morality issues,hehe) the African government can claim that there is no evidence supporting this hypothesis and does not have to supply medicine for its citizens.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 8:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Memo wrote:
I actually know how it came about

please let me in on the secret
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 4:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
how did it pass from animal to human infection... atleast its not a manmade thing as some suggest.

but i wonder what will it take to scare ppl into being careful and not contracting it sexually coz obviously the other ways one can't help it. Coz if Aids doesn't make someone stop and hold back, what will?
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 8:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
There are surely many questions bout HIV...most i cant even answer despite being a Med student. some stuff nobody will ever know...probably its best that way....enjoy ur holidays!
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 6:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
kensoy wrote:
There are surely many questions bout HIV...most i cant even answer despite being a Med student. some stuff nobody will ever know...probably its best that way....enjoy ur holidays!


ati best that way, no we want to know... weee hit the books Laughing n let us know.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 9:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
A pathetic excuse for people to be utterly homophobic.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 3:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
cheptabkoret wrote:
Memo wrote:
I actually know how it came about

please let me in on the secret

come back and i will tell you.......and while at it,drag Altoo with you!.where did y'all go to??? I miss you guys! Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad
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been somewhere kidogo, practising it safe hehehe......altoo might take some few days off, coz he got more than he bargain for Wink but when he will come down from the heaven n bliss, he will be able to contribute
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