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Bonter Undergraduate


Joined: 06 Mar 2007 Posts: 9 Location: Nairobi Country: kenya
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Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 9:42 am Post subject: Education |
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Hi,
Isn't the recent announcement by the minister for education to set A- as the minimum entry point to join varsity something to scare? In my opinion this means that University is now a thing reserved for the rich .Why? Because the rich take their kids to nice primary schools where they pass well n join National schools. From here, the chance of joining campus is very high. The few who wont make will definitely join the university through alternative/parallel programmes. Now letz reason here,what will happen to the majority in the shambaz who only rely on Sh.100 to sustain a family(averaging 8 pple)? Do i have to continue from here? No,of course! Now letz have your contribution.
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altoo Chancellor


Joined: 26 Dec 2006 Posts: 994 Location: MaryLand Country: usa
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Posted: Mon May 14, 2007 12:05 pm Post subject: |
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| Education in Kenya will surely become a joke if they go ahead and stick to the A- minimum to join the universities. It will pretty much eliminate most of the kids who attend public schools coz we all know public schools do not have the facilities and the laboratories essential to pass the national exams. Only the rich which's less than 10% of the Kenyan population would afford to educate their kids and the next thing you know getting university education will be a "legacy" kinda thing..I think wanainchi should fight this effort to the death..what a mess
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bahrmasa Graduate


Joined: 20 Apr 2007 Posts: 37 Location: dubai Country: uae
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Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 5:48 am Post subject: Invite views for a purpose |
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| Bonter, Contributions will come. The question am asking myself is what do you plan to do with whatever contributions that will come. This same question also applies to the other debates in this website not just yours. It appears we are engaging ourselves in a debate or rather like probing from others what they know of this and that. I don?t think its right for us to keep pointing out this and that problem without offering tangible solutions. Many of us are becoming experts in spotting problems but very poor in offering the way forward. We needs to be proactive OTHERWISE our efforts will go to waste. Your debate is more solemn to just pass for entertainment-You never know, perhaps, someone in authority may one day adopt the contributions, and when that happens, then it will benefit all of us.
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altoo Chancellor


Joined: 26 Dec 2006 Posts: 994 Location: MaryLand Country: usa
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Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2007 9:01 pm Post subject: |
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I say majimbo today, majimbo tomorrow, majimbo forever..there comes a prescription to solve all our EDUCATION SYSTEM problems _________________ a CITIZEN without POLITICAL KNOWLEDGE is a VIRTUAL CRIMINAL....when the POWER of LOVE overcomes the LOVE of POWER, the WORLD will know PEACE....I would rather be HATED for WHO I am than LOVED for WHAT I am not....LIVE FREE or DIE HARD!!!
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Memo Tenured Professor


Joined: 31 Jan 2007 Posts: 568 Location: Nrb Country: kenya
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Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2007 9:11 pm Post subject: |
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we all hate being poor! No offense, but if the ONLY way one could payfor his/he education is through loans, why dnt they look harder for scholarships ??people can make a decent living and still pay off their loans.My opinion,concerning kids from poor families in college/uni... can do 2 things.moja:live below your means...get a job& make sure wateva u r making,put away a certain % ..u can work WHILE in college, AND even when you are doing your studies (Hell, there are tons of assistantships and fellowships that will pay for ones tuition). 2.find loans that have low interest...3,make lots connections with your proffesors to get decent jobs.
the experience of "being poor" will make one a more well rounded person and motivation to do better and go farther in life.
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cheptabkoret Chancellor


Joined: 17 May 2007 Posts: 816 Location: Nairobi Country: kenya
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Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 7:22 am Post subject: |
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memo.... do you live in kenya? at present? _________________ Ability may get you to the top, but it takes character to keep you there
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Rokiha Lecturer


Joined: 13 Sep 2007 Posts: 65 Location: Kitale Country: kenya
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Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 12:33 pm Post subject: |
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why dnt they look harder for scholarships ??
Memo do you know who are in charge of this at the ministry of education currently? like squeezing a stone for water.
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altoo Chancellor


Joined: 26 Dec 2006 Posts: 994 Location: MaryLand Country: usa
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Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 5:17 pm Post subject: |
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| Rokiha wrote: | why dnt they look harder for scholarships ??
Memo do you know who are in charge of this at the ministry of education currently? like squeezing a stone for water. |
LOL..couldn't agree with Rokiha more......OR siting outside all day watching the grass grow...........good luck  _________________ a CITIZEN without POLITICAL KNOWLEDGE is a VIRTUAL CRIMINAL....when the POWER of LOVE overcomes the LOVE of POWER, the WORLD will know PEACE....I would rather be HATED for WHO I am than LOVED for WHAT I am not....LIVE FREE or DIE HARD!!!
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SuraMbaya Visiting Assoc Professor


Joined: 23 Sep 2007 Posts: 160 Location: virginia Country: usa
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Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 3:22 pm Post subject: |
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didn't ODM promise to bring back the old 7-4-2-3 system? _________________ if U sacrifice LIBERTY for SECURITY, or PRINCIPLE for POWER, u end up with Neither
Never, 4 the sake of PEACE & QUIET, deny your own EXPERIENCES and/or CONVICTIONS
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Rokiha Lecturer


Joined: 13 Sep 2007 Posts: 65 Location: Kitale Country: kenya
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Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 3:57 am Post subject: |
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It's really not a matter of systems.
What I believe in and what matters most is .. can the present or the future government provide and sustain the resoursces it provides to the ministry???
Quality and not quantity and it counts less whether its a federal system of government or not.
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altoo Chancellor


Joined: 26 Dec 2006 Posts: 994 Location: MaryLand Country: usa
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Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 8:43 pm Post subject: |
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| Rokiha wrote: | It's really not a matter of systems.
What I believe in and what matters most is .. can the present or the future government provide and sustain the resoursces it provides to the ministry???
Quality and not quantity and it counts less whether its a federal system of government or not. |
I beg to disagree rokiha....why?, coz the reason why the present & future govts haven't and/or cannot provide is coz the system SUCKS as it is & needs to be reformed in the first place,....... I say this coz common sense suggests that if it wasn't a matter of systems like you advocate, we would have a better education system already as opposed to still 'looking'.........see what I mean?........anyway,that's why I advocate they try something new, as in a Majimbo system like they have here in the states...coz like wahenga walisema, 'if you got nothing to loose & everything to gain, by all means , give it a damn TRY"....that's all i am saying my brother  _________________ a CITIZEN without POLITICAL KNOWLEDGE is a VIRTUAL CRIMINAL....when the POWER of LOVE overcomes the LOVE of POWER, the WORLD will know PEACE....I would rather be HATED for WHO I am than LOVED for WHAT I am not....LIVE FREE or DIE HARD!!!
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Rokiha Lecturer


Joined: 13 Sep 2007 Posts: 65 Location: Kitale Country: kenya
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Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 3:41 am Post subject: |
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Thanks al for the observations and the additional contribution. I think it didn't come out clearly. The systems I meant was the education ones ... either current 8.4.4 or the previous 7.4.2.3 but all in all the government system in place at any given time counts and that is what you have pointed out clearly and I do concur fully.
Let us wait and see next year... since Iam almost certain we are winning.
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altoo Chancellor


Joined: 26 Dec 2006 Posts: 994 Location: MaryLand Country: usa
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Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 4:53 pm Post subject: |
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thanks rokiha for the clarification......I guess i am not as objective as i should be in comparing the two systems the govt has experimented on courtesy of personally being the among last beneficiaries of the old 7-4-2-3 system back ion 1989 & still thinks that all things considered it was better coz it's streamlined the curriculum early on to make it easy for one to pick a career as opposed to the 8-4-4 system which generalized it but then again, that's just a personal opinion. Either way though, you right that we need a govt that can sustain the education system in not only educating, but also investing in jobs to make sure that all the graduates getting out have the necessary jobs that matches their training skills _________________ a CITIZEN without POLITICAL KNOWLEDGE is a VIRTUAL CRIMINAL....when the POWER of LOVE overcomes the LOVE of POWER, the WORLD will know PEACE....I would rather be HATED for WHO I am than LOVED for WHAT I am not....LIVE FREE or DIE HARD!!!
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Nyiganet Senior Lecturer


Joined: 18 Feb 2007 Posts: 121 Location: Damascus Country: syria
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Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 9:39 pm Post subject: |
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| altoo wrote: | | thanks rokiha for the clarification......I guess i am not as objective as i should be in comparing the two systems the govt has experimented on courtesy of personally being the among last beneficiaries of the old 7-4-2-3 system back ion 1989 & still thinks that all things considered it was better coz it's streamlined the curriculum early on to make it easy for one to pick a career as opposed to the 8-4-4 system which generalized it but then again, that's just a personal opinion. Either way though, you right that we need a govt that can sustain the education system in not only educating, but also investing in jobs to make sure that all the graduates getting out have the necessary jobs that matches their training skills |
Arap Too, as an old school myself, i agree with you. the old 7-4-2-3 system was way off better than the jinga 8-4-4 they have now. we need to get back to it like they have in Uganda right now amun it took care of both economic concepts, supply and demand  _________________ Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's character, give him POWER
Mautyen moset katwalet! Osaach kosachi gaa
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Chic12 Senior Lecturer


Joined: 07 Nov 2007 Posts: 100 Location: Tallin Country: estonia
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Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 4:35 am Post subject: |
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Public schools are the nurseries of all vice and immorality.
Henry Fielding (1707-1754) English novelist, dramatist _________________ -An eye for eye only ends up making the whole world blind.
-Please keep hating on the Chargers- nothing's more flattering than jealousy.
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