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PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 11:15 pm    Post subject: ASHAMED TO BE CALLED A KALENJIN AT THIS MOMENT! Reply with quote
ASHAMED TO BE CALLED A KALENJIN AT THIS MOMENT IN KENYAS' HISTORY!!

I know a lot of my Kinsmen who have their passions on boiling point might try to insult me.What I will ask them is this: Read what I am going to say,then if you think it doesnt make sense,then go ahead and call me whatever you want to.But hear me out first before making any summary judgements.
I haven't been making any contributions on this forum.Even that being the case,I have always monitored what goes on in here.So I am well versed with whats current.
The reason why I am ashamed to call myself a Kipsigis at this point is the fact that NEVER AT ONE TIME DID I THINK WE AS A TRIBE WAS CAPABLE OF BURNING A CHURCH WHERE CHILDREN AND WOMEN WERE SEEKING REFUGE!!!

GOD BLESS KENYA!

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You indeed represent the minority of us in the bell curve who share the mighty fortress of insight. You speak like one who knows yesterday, today and can perceive tomorrow. I wish my dear and fellow Kenyans could pluck a page out of your mighty tree of wisdom. But I am sad too. Many Kenyans, including a vast majority in this august forum have answered the call to address the current political scenario in Kenya on a confrontational predisposition with little or no regard to consequences and the impending aftermath.

You are a wise man, a man of wisdom and tact. To me, you represent maturity and I hope all Kenyans are as yolked with it and their passions as proudly as you are. No leader should call or incite others to commit an act that he or she very well knows has consequences...ones that could potentially destabilize or propagate havoc upon a country and its peoples. I stand corrected that not all of us are stupid, some of us have now become wisemen for they saw and they continue to see. Stupid as we all know, is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting the same outcome. Thus, maturity in this context is knowing and understanding what stupid really is. Like you point out, what is the need to employ massive demonstrations when the outcome yields negligible objectives and goals achieved plus costly outcomes. I wondered truly how many of us are familiar with risk assessment.

The most plausible way to get rid of Kibaki if he has stolen the election is to follow the path that leads to the least resistance. However long this path may appear to take, and however narrow and far fetched it may seem, it is the only path that guarantees our nation stability and accords respect to life, property and truly the term patriotism. I can only hope Hon. Raila Odinga and President Mwai Kibaki, Kalonzo Musyoka included, can espouse true leadership and think like the few in the bell curve. The bell curve is the most scientific and magnanimously correct depicter of leadership I have ever come across in my years of study. I pray we do not learn the hard way like brethren in some countries in Africa that we all too well know about.

Ps. Is it not shaming that in this forum of ours we all love to contribute to, someone actually changed my personal information, changed my logo and I could not tell what else since I posted an article yesterday and replied to a post calling for a petition to the Commonwealth? I actually thought we all ought to respect each others opinion even if it differs from our own without resorting to web object assassinations? I would hate to think that because I expressed certain views my brothers or sisters hated me in return to that tune. I am saddened.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 1:34 am    Post subject: Re: ASHAMED TO BE CALLED A KALENJIN AT THIS MOMENT! Reply with quote
kipjohn2004 wrote:
ASHAMED TO BE CALLED A KALENJIN AT THIS MOMENT IN KENYAS' HISTORY!!

I know a lot of my Kinsmen who have their passions on boiling point might try to insult me.What I will ask them is this: Read what I am going to say,then if you think it doesnt make sense,then go ahead and call me whatever you want to.But hear me out first before making any summary judgements.
I haven't been making any contributions on this forum.Even that being the case,I have always monitored what goes on in here.So I am well versed with whats current.
The reason why I am ashamed to call myself a Kipsigis at this point is the fact that NEVER AT ONE TIME DID I THINK WE AS A TRIBE WAS CAPABLE OF BURNING A CHURCH WHERE CHILDREN AND WOMEN WERE SEEKING REFUGE!!!

GOD BLESS KENYA!

J.KIBET.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 9:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
kipjohn2004.....well, if you really feel that ashamed and/or bad about being a chitabkutit, may i suggest you buy a rogoet, tie one end up a tree branch & the other end tightly around your neck and jump straight down....that'll surely put you out of misery Sir......good luck Wink
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 10:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Kip's shame ought to be our shame too. When one part of a body hurts, then the entire body absorbs and experiences the pain. It is called UNITY. When I espoused that I was ashamed to be a Kenyan by virtue of seeing what Kenyans were doing to each other, it was not meant to educate the narrow minded that I had a disconnect or was contemplating on effecting one by virtue of my shame! All it translates to is the fact that there is empathy in the HUMAN SOUL. Those of us who lack it have indeed no soul at all.

And truly, why would someone, a Kenyan at that and motivated by hate, enter a house of worship and attack, maim, kill and then torch innocent men, women and children seeking refuge and shelter just because they are a particular tribe, voted a particular way, support a certain political candidate or because that act would convince fellow Kenyans--Kibaki, Raila, or the international community we so much are bent to pleasing--that action needs to be taken to right justice and that violence is the only solution to restore 'democracy' following an election that was rigged? Some of us live in comfort to the tune that we have lost touch with reality. Some of us have lost our souls...yet seek to gain the whole world. Some of us will belittle those who even seek and aspire to defend the sanctity of life and humanity. We can not be that educated that we have uneducated ourselves off of what our parents, grandparents or our forefathers taught us.

The geometry of life is akin to a cycle. What goes around usually comes around...as they say. Thus, as Kenyans in the Diaspora, and for those at home...these are our times. If we repeated the mistakes of our predecessors, then we can not claim any progress at all. I will teach my children that they ought to be and can do better than I because if they aim to be just like us parents, then indeed they have made no progress at all. Pass on the right messages. Because we never know the impact they could have on future generations. Do unto others as you would want them to do to you. Our country cries for deliverance...and there are many ways to execute the strategies for attaining that deliverance. If we search deep in our hearts we shall find that we had all the answers all along and that violence for violence was not one of them.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 11:51 pm    Post subject: Re: ASHAMED TO BE CALLED A KALENJIN AT THIS MOMENT! Reply with quote
kipjohn2004 wrote:
ASHAMED TO BE CALLED A KALENJIN AT THIS MOMENT IN KENYAS' HISTORY!!

I know a lot of my Kinsmen who have their passions on boiling point might try to insult me.What I will ask them is this: Read what I am going to say,then if you think it doesnt make sense,then go ahead and call me whatever you want to.But hear me out first before making any summary judgements.
I haven't been making any contributions on this forum.Even that being the case,I have always monitored what goes on in here.So I am well versed with whats current.
The reason why I am ashamed to call myself a Kipsigis at this point is the fact that NEVER AT ONE TIME DID I THINK WE AS A TRIBE WAS CAPABLE OF BURNING A CHURCH WHERE CHILDREN AND WOMEN WERE SEEKING REFUGE!!!

GOD BLESS KENYA!

J.KIBET.
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I read your article and I'm not sorry to say it didn't make no sense at all. What the hell are you talking about dude? Just a bunch of garbage. If you are ashamed of being a kalenjin then go tell that to mama na baba yako who worked so hard to get you to this world as a kale. We did not play any part in that game.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 4:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
@Keno from Canada, what part of my text or issue didn't you understand? I thought I used standard eight english?

As for going to my parents, why should I do that when I have someone like you? You are the perfect specimen to dish it to, don't you think???

And do humor me Keno.What part of the article I posted was gargage???
Why does your KIND GET SO DEFENSIVE AND AVOID ADDRESSING WHAT I RAISED? TELL THE WORLD WHAT YOU DON'T AGREE WITH OR WHERE I AM WRONG!! ARE YOU THAT STUPID? COSH...I CAN'T BELIEVE I AM TEACHING YOU! GROW UP SON. SEE THE LIGHT!!

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 3:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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kipjohn2004.....well, if you really feel that ashamed and/or bad about being a chitabkutit, may i suggest you buy a rogoet, tie one end up a tree branch & the other end tightly around your neck and jump straight down....that'll surely put you out of misery Sir......good luck Wink


I couldn't agree more Bwana Altoo. He should also start by digging up his grave as well. Ashamed t be a Kale where is your manhood? Kichobin Boisiek iman oo Kipjohn? I think you went to the hospital.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 3:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Hey Kipjohn, Mwacha mila ni mtumwa. And by the way I saw on your profile that you are a golfer? Is that why you are ashamed to be a kale? Just out of curiosity, what is your handicap? Don't be too obsorbed in carrying clubs for the white men, that you forget about your people. I know it can be tough carrying those metal sticks and waiting for the "master" to strike a ball, but remeber one thing. At the end of the day you are a Kale, you will always be a Kale no matter what you do. So take it for what it is. The last time I checked Michael Jackson is still black! So meza wembe if it's too unbearable>
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 4:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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@Keno from Canada, what part of my text or issue didn't you understand? I thought I used standard eight english?

As for going to my parents, why should I do that when I have someone like you? You are the perfect specimen to dish it to, don't you think???

And do humor me Keno.What part of the article I posted was gargage???
Why does your KIND GET SO DEFENSIVE AND AVOID ADDRESSING WHAT I RAISED? TELL THE WORLD WHAT YOU DON'T AGREE WITH OR WHERE I AM WRONG!! ARE YOU THAT STUPID? COSH...I CAN'T BELIEVE I AM TEACHING YOU! GROW UP SON. SEE THE LIGHT!!

J.Kibet.


Hey kipjohn, I am ashamed that you are a Kalenjin.One thing I must hand to you though is your sincerity- You trully are standard eight material
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 5:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
This is for member ORGOIYOT.
You just amaze me. Where can I start with you now?
It makes me wonder what level of education you have by just the way you express yourself.

For your information, I dont CARRY CLUBS FOR MY "WHITEMEN" AS YOU WANT TO PUT IT.I am not absorbed in carrying golf clubs for anyone.Actually, people (mostly white friends) carry golf clubs for me.
My golf HANDICAP IS ZEROOOOO...A SCRATCH GOLFER FOR YOUR UNINFORMED MIND.

Actually, (and this I am not gloathing) most White folks that I constantly interact with WANT TO CARRY MY OWN GOLF BAG!!! Does that tell you something? I know that with your level of IQ, it is mental torture for you to figure it out.I am not ashamed to be a KALEO golfer. Actually,I am proud to be one!! I happen to think that I am the best KALEO AMATEUR GOLFER this side of the Atlantic.
If you want to check my profile...go to United States Golf Association site dealing with amateurs in America.Check out the profile of John Kibet.

I have worked hard to be someone and I still have humanity in me to know that killing my neighbour is wrong.It has not gone into my head!!! What have you done @Orgoiyot other than BEING A WAR- MONGER?

Simply because I said I was ASHAMED for what some Kalenjin sickos did at KIAMBAA'S KENYA ASSEMBLIES OF GOD CHURCH, 12 kilometres from Eldoret Town, DOESN'T MEAN THAT I HAVE DISOWNED MY OWN TRIBE.

@Orgoiyot, did you really UNDERSTAND WHAT ISSUES I WAS TALKING ABOUT? Why is it that your kind makes me think that don't have that PIECE OF JELLY CALLED A BRAIN???
Why don't you read and try to understand what MADE ME BE ASHAMED OF BEING CALLED A KALEO AT THIS MOMENT IN KENYAS HISTORY?

If you aren't that dumb enough, you will see that I never said that I was DISOWNING MY OWN TRIBE.I WAS BORN A KALEO AND I WILL DIE ONE.I don't need Pumbavus like you to tell me that.
And that wasn't the issue at all. I ain't no Michael Jackson for your information.I am very Black and I will always be.I have never pretended to be White despite the fact that I live and work in White America!! I am proud to be a Black Kaleo person!!!

You said, "Mwacha Mila Ni Mtumwa".You gotta be very NAIVE AND CRAZY.BOTH.
I HAVEN'T THROWN AWAY MY CULTURE.I NEVER SAID KALEO CULTURE SUCKS.I NEVER SAID THAT.
Its just because of your stupidity that I am even addressing this issue.What I am AGAINST IS FOR A FEW KALEOS SOILING THE PEACEFUL MAJORITY'S NAME BY KILLING OTHERS IN THE NAME OF A STOLEN ELECTION.

Will the Government of Kibaki resign if you kill some innocent Kikuyus? HELL NO. You and your likes who think that it is right to be savages have no place in this Kenya of ours!!!

And please, if you can't reply to issues I raised, don't waste my precious time.I HAVE NO TIME FOR PUMBAVUS like you and your kind.We need a prosperous and peaceful Kenya.Take your stupidity and childishness somewhere else.You are dealing with a reasonable human being!

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 2:50 am    Post subject: Dont be ashamed KIPJOHN Reply with quote
you are like a wolf in a herd of sheep.How the heck can you even imagine.This is my first time to hear a kale denouncing his roots wtf? Anyway the thing is KILA MTU ARUDI KWAO. enough is enough kalenjin have been very hospitable people in the past,this guys have even married our daughters cultivated our land and so on but we have been taken for a ride for too long a time .so i say if people stay WHERE THEY BELONG i think their would be no friction anymore.If you have any frustrations Mr American Golfer direct it to "'president" Kibaki he is the root cause he stole the vote.Why was he sworn in swiftly just an hour after that fckin dick-head called kivuitu announced the rigged results?Why wouldnt they recount even if it took a day extra by the way recounting 210 constituencies is not a big deal, im sure the 350 kenyans could still be alive today.so dont blame the kales my friend we are just defending our land.Kikuyus will not rule us in our backyard.Why didnt you complain when the MUNGIKI were slashing people? They better go to central province or they go to state house and stay with kibaki not in Eldy This guys have been enjoying our milk and taking advantage of us.They hike prices they are just not fair! I hope that they will never come back to our land.Ever ! maybe as tourists!And dont think being in the united states is a big deal pia sisi tuko hapa hapa.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 4:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
This message is for K2000jere in Largo, Florida.

This is what I can only tell you.I THINK YOU HAVE OUTLIVED YOUR USEFULNESS HERE IN AMERICA.PROBABLY THEY NEED TO DEPORT YOUR SORRY BUTT TO ELDORET AND BE WITH YOUR KIND.

I wonder why you are even in Florida, someone's else land WHILE CLAIMING THAT YOU DON'T NEED OTHERS IN YOUR OWN BACKYARD.I THINK THE DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY NEEDS TO BE INFORMED OF YOUR LESS THAN THANK YOU GRATITUDE!

I THINK YOU WILL DESERVE WHAT COMES YOUR WAY SON! IT WON'T BE LONG NOW.You need to go back to Eldy.Don't even land at JKIA. Land in Kaleo land and breath Kaleo air.I think one War-Monger will have been eliminated!
You don't deserve to be here.You are a MENACE TO THE SOCIETY. TO KENYANS AND PEACE LOVING AMERICANS TOO.You have outlived tour WELCOME HERE.GO BACK TO KALEO LAND AND GO BACK TO THE CAVE YOU GRAWLED FROM!

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 1:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
i haven't read the full article yet, but from the first post it doesn't sound like his denouncing his roots.... and given the reason for his shame i tend to stand with him. But personally i still refuse to think its kales that did the church... Eldi is diverse so it might as well have been some jangos behind that, i'm truly trying to believe that.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 5:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
kipjohn2004 wrote:
This message is for K2000jere in Largo, Florida.

This is what I can only tell you.I THINK YOU HAVE OUTLIVED YOUR USEFULNESS HERE IN AMERICA.PROBABLY THEY NEED TO DEPORT YOUR SORRY BUTT TO ELDORET AND BE WITH YOUR KIND.

I wonder why you are even in Florida, someone's else land WHILE CLAIMING THAT YOU DON'T NEED OTHERS IN YOUR OWN BACKYARD.I THINK THE DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY NEEDS TO BE INFORMED OF YOUR LESS THAN THANK YOU GRATITUDE!
I THINK YOU WILL DESERVE WHAT COMES YOUR WAY SON! IT WON'T BE LONG NOW.You need to go back to Eldy.Don't even land at JKIA. Land in Kaleo land and breath Kaleo air.I think one War-Monger will have been eliminated!
You don't deserve to be here.You are a MENACE TO THE SOCIETY. TO KENYANS AND PEACE LOVING AMERICANS TOO.You have outlived tour WELCOME HERE.GO BACK TO KALEO LAND AND GO BACK TO THE CAVE YOU GRAWLED FROM!
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I plead the fifth! This guy has lost it.
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Let me start by thanking Member PreciousA from Kentucky for being who you are.I was starting to think that I was dealing with PIN-HEADS AND DICK-HEADS only in this forum. Atleast you read what I wrote initially and I believe that you are an Objective reasonable person.You are right in one aspect about the people who touched the Church in Eldy.They could have been Jangos.But I just happen to have had solid info that they were "Kaleo Warriors".Judgement is still out there though as exactly who did that.Thanks for taking your time to read my piece.It gives me hope to know that there are atleast two other folks here who are not BLOOD THIRSTY FOR INNOCENT GEMA FOLKS!

Back to member Orgoiyot and Werit ab Sonoiya residing in North Carolina.

You Orgoiyot first.

This is a piece of what you wrote in your reply above....
..."And by the way I saw on your profile that you are a golfer? Is that why you are ashamed to be a kale? Just out of curiosity, what is your handicap? Don't be too obsorbed in carrying clubs for the white men, that you forget about your people. I know it can be tough carrying those metal sticks and waiting for the "master" to strike a ball, but remeber one thing..."

Haki U are just a PUMBAVU for sure.No words that I know can describe your UJINGA.Now you accuse me of this golf thing I do? You wanted to know what my golf handicap was.I told you and you COULDN'T HANDLE IT.I was not after IMPRESSING YOU IDIOT!!! I just replied to your inquries.

Who seems to be resentful now? Its not me.Why should I be RESENTFUL anyway? I am CONFIDENT OF WHO I AM.I AM WHO I AM.You can't change that MORON! And me playing golf well has nothing to do with anyone.I care less of what you and others think.I aint boasting or anything like that.
And what can UNINFORMED DICK-HEAD like you knows about golf anyway??? I bet none.

As for me using big words? You are just a very SORRY DUDE men.Tha'ts me expressing myself.If your fifth grade education can't make you understand me,then don't accuse me of using big words.KWANI ARE YOU A MSICHANA FOR ME TO TRY TO SEDUCE YOU WITH MY WORDS? WEWE MJINGA NAMNA KANI??? KWANI HUYU PUMBAVU ANATOKA WAPI???
Who between me and you is DEALING WITH ISSUES? You haven't REBUTTED on even one issue I raised.You are just busy ATTACKING AND TRYING TO DEMONIZE ME with all the other few Pumbavus in here!!!

I am willing to bet you are not a Kipsigis guy by birth like me.Probably you come from somewhere else other than Kipsigis Land.I have never met any Kipsigis guy who is SO STUPID AND RETARTED!!!Unless some GENETIC MUTATION OCCURED THAT potentially stopped the growth of your brain cells.That could be ONLY LOGICAL logical reason.

I asked you before to reply to ISSUES I RAISED POINT BY POINT.Instead what do you engage in? Character assassination.

And to add on that, YOU ARE A WAR-MONGER.A person who doesn't want to live PEACEFULLY WITH OTHER TRIBES.
Let me ask you this? WHY ARE YOU IN AMERICA NOW.Is this your Mama's Land OR PART OF ELDORET? A HATER LIKE YOU DOESN'T HAVE TO BE IN THE LAND OF ABE LINCOLN.You should go back to Eldy at the earliest time possible.We don't need people like you around who can't afford to coexist with their neighbour's PEACEFULLY.I STAND BY THAT DECLARATION NOW AND ALWAYS.And if another Pumbavu like Werit ab Sonoiya can call me a SNITCH...SO BE IT.

For your information, I DON'T GLORIFY KIKUYUS.They just happen to be people from another tribe.NOT ALL KIKUYU'S are good people.Just like not ALL KALEOS ARE GOOD PEOPLE! Even in America, you got GOOD AND BAD WHITE PEOPLE.Thats the real world.But do I have to HATE ALL WHITE PEOPLE BECAUSE ONE OF THEM CALLED ME A NEGRO? HELL NO.I judge people by their character and attitude.Just like I have ALREADY CONClUDED THAT YOU ARE A MAD-MAN.You and the likes of you in this forum who ARE BLOOD THRISTY AND WON'T HESITATE TO SHED INNOCENT BLOOD of innocent Kikuyus, Kisiis,Kamba's, etc.

Before you start pontificating that you got to me ANGRY AND RESENTFUL,let me bring you back to reality.You never made any point.So what points DID you raise other than just showing how STUPID YOU ARE???I am just angry at myself for wasting so much time dealing with an IMBECILE like you!
This is the last time I am replying to your ravings.You are JUST BUT A COWARD[/.I don't know what me and you can share.We are two worlds apart.So don't bother replying to this missive.If you do, I won't bother to deal with you.I have lowered myself beneath my dignity.And I have dignified your UJINGA for too long now.I have important stuff to deal with than locking HORNS WITH ONE PUMBAVU like you.I know there are other Pumbavus like you in this Forum.It just saddens me very much to know that.Thats my last word with you!!!.

Let me go to Member Werit ab Sonoiya from North Carolina.
I just happen to know a few folks who are friends of mine residing in North Carolina.I believe me and them have different views about the current conflict in Kenya.But I respect their views.I guess you know these folks.And I assume you must be helping out with web development of this site.Not sure though.Its just an assumption.I won't say who this guys are coz the INNOCENT SHALL REMAIN PROTECTED.
But this is what I am gonna tell you @Werit an Sonoiya: YOU ARE JUST ANOTHER MORON AND A TYPICAL PUMBAVU.


This is what you said..."BE CAREFUL BIIKABKUTIT, WE MIGHT HAVE A SNITCH AMONGST US! A JUDAS WHO MAY SELL YOU OUT FOR PENNIES! LEARN HOW TO SPELL!"
The reason you said this is because of what I told K2000jere of Largo, Florida.
For those who haven't read what this blood-thirsty thug from Florida said, I am gonna paste some parts here.He said..."Kikuyus will not rule us in our backyard.Why didnt you complain when the MUNGIKI were slashing people? They better go to central province or they go to state house and stay with kibaki not in Eldy This guys have been enjoying our milk and taking advantage of us.They hike prices they are just not fair! I hope that they will never come back to our land.Ever ! maybe as tourists!And dont think being in the united states is a big deal pia sisi tuko hapa hapa."

And this is my reply to this Mad man..."This is what I can only tell you.I THINK YOU HAVE OUTLIVED YOUR USEFULNESS HERE IN AMERICA.PROBABLY THEY NEED TO DEPORT YOUR SORRY BUTT TO ELDORET AND BE WITH YOUR KIND.

I wonder why you are even in Florida, someone's else land WHILE CLAIMING THAT YOU DON'T NEED OTHERS IN YOUR OWN BACKYARD.I THINK THE DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY NEEDS TO BE INFORMED OF YOUR LESS THAN THANK YOU GRATITUDE!

I THINK YOU WILL DESERVE WHAT COMES YOUR WAY SON! IT WON'T BE LONG NOW.You need to go back to Eldy.Don't even land at JKIA. Land in Kaleo land and breath Kaleo air.I think one War-Monger will have been eliminated!
You don't deserve to be here.You are a MENACE TO THE SOCIETY. TO KENYANS AND PEACE LOVING AMERICANS TOO.You have outlived tour WELCOME HERE.GO BACK TO KALEO LAND AND GO BACK TO THE CAVE YOU GRAWLED FROM! "


Hey members, I believe you are smart folks.BE YOUR OWN JUDGE(S).DOES THIS MEAN I AM A SNITCH IN ANYWAY by telling this HYPOCRITE THAT HE HAD NO BUSINESS BEING IN SOMEONE'S LAND(FLORIDA) and yet he is ADVOCATING FOR THE KILLING, DESTRUCTION OF KIKUYU PROPERTY, AND SENTING THEM TO CENTRAL PROVINCE.
If you are not A WAR-MONGER OR ANOTHER PUMBAVU,THEN YOU WILL SEE MY REASONING!!!Every HARD WORKING PERSON,BE IT Kikuyu, Kalenjin,Kamba, Luo,Miji Kenda,etc, have a RIGHT TO OWN AND OPERATE BUSINESS IN ANY PART OF KENYA IRRESPECTIVE OF THEIR POLITICAL AFFILIATION OR TRIBE!!!ITS COMMON SENSE UNLESS YOU ARE RETARTED!

So I am gonna tell this MORON calling himself Werit ab Sonoiya THAT HIS PRESENCE IN NORTH CAROLINA HAS OUTLIVED ITS USEFULNESS!!!
HE NEEDS TO BE SHIPPED OUT TO ELDORET OR KAPSABET BECAUSE HIS PRESENCE IS A DANGER TO HIS OWN KINSMEN AND THE HOSPITABLE PEOPLE OF NORTH CAROLINA!!! DUDE,YOUR SELL-BY DATE IS UP AND I BELIEVE ANY DECENT N.CAROLINIAN WILL SEE YOU AS A TREATH TO THEIR SECURITY AND PEACE!!! I GUESS EVEN THE D of HS will agree with me when THEY GET TO KNOW YOU POLITICAL DISPOSITION OF POLITICAL GENOCIDE.You and your are the kind of folks they want to WEED OUT.I believe you,K2000jere,Kipngetich, and Orgoiyot(plus any other blood-thirsty IDIOT in this forum)...including this dude in Canada,Keno, NEEDS TO BE DEALTH WITH EXPEDITIOUSLY AND WITHOUT FURTHER DELAY.YOU ARE A DISGRACE TO KENYANS IN NORTH AMERICA AND KALENJINS AS A WHOLE!!!

You put up a sign that says..."Peace Will Not Be Silenced By Fear" and "Fight For Freedom"
I wonder if you are a Web developer really.Coz I expect someone of your caliber to have some education.But I can understand.I HEAR THAT SOME MIGHT BE EDUCATED,BUT IT DOESN'T EQUATE TO BEING STREET SMART OR WISE.Probably you fall in this later category.

Also sounds like you are very confused with the message behind the signs you just posted.You are just A HYPOCRITE! HOW CAN YOU TALK ABOUT PEACE NOT BEING SILENCED BY FEAR AND YET YOU ARE PRACTISING OR SUPPORTING THE VERY OPPOSITE? I am preaching PEACE IN THIS FORUM BUT YOU AND THE OTHER MORONS ARE PREACHING HATRED AND CHAOS!!! So how can you start talking about peace and yet you are the ONE'S TRYING TO SILENCE ME AND THOSE WHO OPPOSE YOUR WAR-MONGERING ATTITUDE, through FEAR AND INTIMIDATION???
YOU ARE JUST BASICALLY A COWARD AND AN HYPOCRITE TO BOOT!!!

You don't understand what freedom is.Kenyans got their freedom from Britain in 1963.That's why they celebrate UHURU DAY YOU IDIOT![/b] You sound like Kenyans are suffering from DETERMINISM! NO THEY ARE NOT. They have the freedom of the will to choose a course of action without external coercion but in accordance with the ideals or moral outlook of the individual.
[b]A pumbavu like you doesn't know that FREEDOM IMPLIES THE ABSENCE OF HINDRANCE,RESTRAINT,CONFINEMENT,OR REPRESSION.

What does the perception that Kibaki stole the vote have to do with freedom? You might SAY A SECTION OF KENYAN'S GOT DISENFRANCHISED WHEN THEIR VOTES WERE STOLEN OR NOT COUNTED.This has nothing to do with FREEDOM cause Kenyans are FREE TO DO WHAT THEY WANT(including voting in who they want minus intimidation) WITHIN THE LIMITS OF THE LAW.

Dude, you live in North Carolina and you don't know that even though Americans enjoy the First Amendment ((dealing with abridging the freedom of speech,or of the press,or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances)), they still have to maintain law and order.FREEDOM DOES NOT EQUATE TO A LICENSE TO BREAK LAWS vis a vis KILLING,DESROYING PROPERTY AND MAIMING ONES NEIGHBOUR BECAUSE OF THEIR POLITICAL LEANINGS!!!

And THE LATER IS what YOUR WHACKY MIND AND THOSE LIKE YOU ARE ADVOCATING.The American's won't even allow you to practice that kind of stupid mentality in North Carolina.
Thats why I said you have outlived your usefulness in America.

AND IF BY ME SAYING THIS I AM LABELLED A SNITCH, THEN ITS A LABEL I AM PROUD TO WEAR!!! I AM ONE GUY YOU WILL NEVER INTIMIDATE WITH YOUR ACCUSATIONS.I STAND UP TO BE COUNTED AS SOMEONE STANDING FOR WHAT IS MORALLY RIGHT.
You and your kind need PRAYERS THOUGH.I AM NOT VERY RELIGIOUS BECAUSE I WOULD HAVE PRAYED FOR YOU.But I don't even think you and your kind deserve any prayers at all.YOU ARE JUST CONFUSED AND LOST SOULS. You don't deserve to live among the PEACEFUL.NOW AND ALWAYS.

This is my summation folks and I STAND BY IT.You don't have to like me.Just read and digest what I said.Be your own JUDGE(S) AND STAYED INFORMED! AND FOR THOSE OFFENDED BY ANY OF MY WORD: A THOUSAND APOLOGIES.THIS IS NOT ME. I HAD TO FIGHT FIRE WITH FIRE.

J.Kibet.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 3:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
This is for you Werit ab Sonoya.

You DISAPPOINT ME GREATLY.IF YOU ARE A REAL MODERATOR(as you claim-I happen to know the dude who runs this site too),THEN YOU WOULD HAVE NO BUSINESS BEING A MORON.
DESPITE YOU BEING AN ODM FANATIC AND A DIE-HARD,YOU SHOULD LET OTHERS WHO THINK DIFFERENTLY THAN YOU TO SOUND THEIR VOICES. A GENUINE MODERATOR IS A VERY OBJECTIVE PERSON NOT A VERY NARROW MINDED PUMBAVU LIKE YOU!!! He lets members AIR THEIR VIEWS WITHOUT TRYING TO MUSCLE THEIR PERSONAL EXPRESSIONS!!! IS THIS TYPICAL ODM MENTALITY? THANK GOD KENYANS ARE NOT UNDER YOUR ODM WAY OF THINKING.
IF YOU CAN'T HANDLE ME EXPOUNDING MY POINTS THOROUGHLY AND TO THE POINT, THEN KICK ME OUT MORON! COWARDS LIKE YOU DON'T HAVE TO INTIMIDATE SOMEONE LIKE ME!! NOT NOW AND NOT EVER!!!THIS IS NOT THE ONLY KALENJIN FORUM IN THE WEB YOU FOOL.

I just wonder if the guy who OWNS THIS SITE HAS DESCENDED TO YOUR LEVEL TOO. LAST TIME I KNEW HIM, HE WAS A COOL MOHINE! HE USED TO BE AN UPSTANDING GUY WHO MIGHT HAVE NOT AGREED WITH MY POINT OF VIEW, BUT STILL RESPECTED ME.

You try to say I wrote GARBAGE IN HERE.Tell everyone what the garbage was.Anyway, save all of us the time.I know YOU CAN'T BE ABLE TO MATCH ANY POINTS WITH ME.THATS WHY YOU ARE JUST SUMMARILY DISMISSING ME.YOUR KIND ARE ALWAYS LIKE THAT.THEY HAVE NOTHING TO SAY OTHER THAN TRY TO MUSCLE OTHERS.

Sorry dude, you got the WRONG KALEO THIS TIME.I AIN'T SORRY FOR NOTHING. YOU CAN KICK ME OUT IF YOU WANT TO.A PUMBAVU LIKE YOU DON'T HAVE MY RESPECT AND MY TIME WHATSOEVER.

AND THATS MY SAY.TAKE IT OR LEAVE IT.

J Kibet.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 3:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
kipjohn2004 wrote:
This is for you Werit ab Sonoya.

You DISAPPOINT ME GREATLY.IF YOU ARE A REAL MODERATOR(as you claim-I happen to know the dude who runs this site too),THEN YOU WOULD HAVE NO BUSINESS BEING A MORON.
DESPITE YOU BEING AN ODM FANATIC AND A DIE-HARD,YOU SHOULD LET OTHERS WHO THINK DIFFERENTLY THAN YOU TO SOUND THEIR VOICES. A GENUINE MODERATOR IS A VERY OBJECTIVE PERSON NOT A VERY NARROW MINDED PUMBAVU LIKE YOU!!! He lets members AIR THEIR VIEWS WITHOUT TRYING TO MUSCLE THEIR PERSONAL EXPRESSIONS!!! IS THIS TYPICAL ODM MENTALITY? THANK GOD KENYANS ARE NOT UNDER YOUR ODM WAY OF THINKING.
IF YOU CAN'T HANDLE ME EXPOUNDING MY POINTS THOROUGHLY AND TO THE POINT, THEN KICK ME OUT MORON! COWARDS LIKE YOU DON'T HAVE TO INTIMIDATE SOMEONE LIKE ME!! NOT NOW AND NOT EVER!!!THIS IS NOT THE ONLY KALENJIN FORUM IN THE WEB YOU FOOL.

I just wonder if the guy who OWNS THIS SITE HAS DESCENDED TO YOUR LEVEL TOO.LAST TIME I KNEW HIM, HE WAS A COOL MOHINE! HE USED TO BE AN UPSTANDING GUY WHO MIGHT HAVE NOT AGREED WITH MY POINT OF VIEW, BUT STILL RESPECTED ME.

You try to say I wrote GARBAGE IN HERE.Tell everyone what the garbage was.Anyway, save all of us the time.I know YOU CAN'T BE ABLE TO MATCH ANY POINTS WITH ME.THATS WHY YOU ARE JUST SUMMARILY DISMISSING ME.YOUR KIND ARE ALWAYS LIKE THAT.THEY HAVE NOTHING TO SAY OTHER THAN TRY TO MUSCLE OTHERS.

Sorry dude, you got the WRONG KALEO THIS TIME.I AIN'T SORRY FOR NOTHING. YOU CAN KICK ME OUT IF YOU WANT TO.A PUMBAVU LIKE YOU DON'T HAVE MY RESPECT AND MY TIME WHATSOEVER.

AND THATS MY SAY.TAKE IT OR LEAVE IT.

J Kibet.


Now you are talking.....by the way as a moderator and a member as well, I am entitled to my opinion. I'm an ODM die hard, you got that right, and as we all know objectivity gets you nowhere half the time. If you want something in this world you got to take it. No one will hand it to you on a silver platter.
This topic was about you being ashamed of being a Kale, wonder how it turned out to be a "hand to hand" combat between you and and the members, me included. No one is dismissing your point of view. No one is kicking you out. Stop your paranoia....Anyway I do not agree with you on this matter of soft politics.....you potray yourself as the good guy, being shameful and all but guess what, you don't know what some people have been through in the 5 years that Kibaki was in power. You are in Cali making a good living, going on with your daily life, but you have to understand the direct or indirect effect that Kibaki and his government has had on our people.
The act of burning churches is cruel yes but you should be able to look at the bigger picture. My thought goes along the lines of "If Kibaki had not rigged himself into power, then the church would be holding a sermon next Sunday" He is the root cause of every damn thing that happened over the last couple of weeks including the deaths of innocent wanainchi. By the way Kales died too....where is your heart for them? I still maintain my point and the 40 dead, let their souls rest in peace. As for Kibaki and his goverment, they can go to H*LL for all I care. That's my point in plain english..don't take this too personal, believe me if you were going to get kicked out, you wouldn't even know. So hey keep writing, but make it short and to the point, and by the way bolding the letters doesn't emphasize what you have to say. Please use plain fonts and let us agree and disagree on issues that affect us all. At the end of the day we are all Kales trying to make it....only that some of us have less "Kale" in them.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 3:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
And oh, Wetib ab Sonoiya, let me tell you this fool.I know the difference between a BLOG AND A FORUM!!!
I know where I am.I am CONTRIBUTING TO A FORUM YOU PUMBAVU!
You are just a typical BLOCK-HEADED DUDE.JEEZ...HOW IN THE WORLD DID SOMEONE LET YOU BE A MODERATOR?

This is a PLACE FOR DISCUSSION OF PUBLIC MATTERS OR CURRENT QUESTIONS. FOR THOSE WHO DOESN'T KNOW, A FORUM IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR OPEN DISCUSSIONS.MARK THIS WORDS CAREFULLY LADIES AND GENTLEMEN...A FORUM IS A PLACE WHERE YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR OPEN DISCUSSIONS!!! IT DOESN'T SAY ONLY FOR ODM SUPPORTERS OR WAR-MONGERS AND HATERS.

HAS THIS SITE BECOME AN ODM PROPAGANDA MACHINE NOW OR WHAT? ANYONE REPRESENTING DIFFERENT VIEWS IS GOING TO BE SILENCED BY A FANATICAL ODM MODERATOR NOW? HEY, CAN THE OWNER(S) OF THIS SITE STAND UP AND BE COUNTED???
And this FOOL WANTS ME TO CREATE A BLOG TO AIR MY VIEWS? BECAUSE OF WHAT? A NARROW-TWISTED DISAGREEMENT WITH MY VIEWS REGARDING WHAT I THINK OF HIM AND HIS ODM BANDWAGON!!!??? BE YOUR OWN JUDGE(S) FOLKS!!

@Werit ab Sonoya, I ain't CREATING NO BLOG FOOL. Other members here like altoo contribute to a lot of issues.IS IT BECAUSE A GUY LIKE HIM SUPPORTS YOUR VIEWS AND HE IS NOT TREATH TO YOU?
OR IS MY WRITINGS TAKING UP A LOT OF YOUR PRECIOUS SPACE THAT OTHER ODM FANATICS COULD HAVE USED TO EXPOUND THEIR DRIVEL? PROBABLY THIS COULD BE THE REASON OF YOU TRYING TO SILENCE ME. I HAVE BEEN A NOBLE FIGHTER AND I WILL ALWAYS BE. PEACE AND JUSCTICE IS MY TRADEMARK YOU IMBECILE.NO MORON LIKE YOU CAN MAKE ME COWER.I AIN'T NO COWARD.NOBODY EVER SAID KIBET WAS AN ENABLER.NO NEVERRR!!

But you can't SILENCE ME.YOU JUST HAVE TO KICK ME OUT MORON! I FEEL DIRTY AND CHEAP TO KNOW THAT WE SHARE THE SAME TRIBE.THATS HOW LOW I THINK OF YOU AND YOUR KIND. THE TRUTH SHALL PREVAIL. AND THE TRUTH SHALL SET ME FREE...FREE FROM THE YOKES OF YOUR KIND! SO HELP ME GOD!

J.Kibet.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 4:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I figure you didn't read my previous reply because you were too busy coming up with other names to call me. Look here, don't be too bitter! This forum is not an ODM proaganda machine. It's a forum for intelectuals who can disagree with people without taking it to heart like you do. Why are you so hurt? Did someone hit your soft spot? Whatever the case name calling and throwing fits does'nt do it for me buddy...matter of fact apart from a few points you raised, I am indifferent to what you have to say..well go on till you run out of gas. I could care less remember what you eat does not make me crap.
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